正文翻譯
原創(chuàng)翻譯：龍騰網(wǎng) http://www.ltaaa.com 翻譯：葉良辰 轉(zhuǎn)載請注明出處

How do I convince an atheist that there is a God?

我怎樣才能使一個無神論者相信上帝的存在呢?

評論翻譯
原創(chuàng)翻譯：龍騰網(wǎng) http://www.ltaaa.com 翻譯：葉良辰 轉(zhuǎn)載請注明出處

Mik Kaleborn
Quite simple really, you do what most Religious Authorities did to convince their initial pool of potential ‘believers’ to convert:You walk into their village with a large group of aggressive young men, put a sword to their throat and have them swear to convert/believe/adopt/affirm the reality, truth, greatness and glory of your chosen Deity or you will murder them, their wife and their children in front of the rest of the village until whoever is left believes as strongly as as is required. You may want to rape and pillage a bit anyway to drive home the point of your God’s authority before leaving them with a few Holy Men and armed ‘Warriors of God’ to ensure their continued devotion and commitment to the One True Faith.Rinse repeat from village to village and return every so often to collect tithe, draft some aggressive young men and boys to ‘The Cause’ and marry off a few of their underage girls to ensure future generations of religious fodder.After a few centuries of this your chosen God will be firmly entrenched in the psychological, emotional, cultural, familial landscape of those villages and they’ll self-sustain the belief system through parent-child indoctrination and the tendency of humans to prefer social conformity. Can last centuries or millennia in the right conditions….or until the next religious warlord comes storming through with his own band of Holy Warriors to install their One True Faith….give or take a few more underage girls to seal the deal.That is the most successful formula for propagating religion in human history as I see it. Why not go with what works?Surely you didn’t think reason, logic and the actual existence of any god or gods were the driving force behind faith did you?

回答1：
很簡單的，你只需仿制大多數(shù)宗教所采取的“說服”那些潛在的“信徒”方法：
帶領(lǐng)一群熱血的圣戰(zhàn)士沖進他們的村莊里，
把利劍抵住那些村民的喉嚨，
讓他們發(fā)誓皈依/相信/接受/肯定你的真理、神，
有抗命不從的，當(dāng)眾斬殺，殺到剩下的人信服你的神為止.
當(dāng)然，你要讓這些“圣戰(zhàn)士”劫掠、強奸一番，以便他們效死力.

每到一個地方就重復(fù)上面的做法，
隔一段時間就過來征收什一稅，再征召一些小年輕入伍，
再搜刮一些女孩來給他們，培養(yǎng)出下一代宗教“圣戰(zhàn)士”.
這樣子持續(xù)搞個幾百年，你所信奉的神，
就會在這些村莊的心理、情感、文化和家庭觀中牢固地扎根，
家庭灌輸、人類傾向于社會整合的心理因素，會自我維持這個信仰系統(tǒng)的.

若沒有什么意外的話，信仰你的神，會一直持續(xù)幾百年甚至上千年…
或者直到下一個宗教軍閥領(lǐng)著他的圣戰(zhàn)士帶來另一個唯一真神+一群女孩.
在我看來，這就是人類歷史上最成功的傳教方法.
為啥你不撿這種現(xiàn)成而又有效的方法呢？
你該不會是認(rèn)為用理性、邏輯、證明真神存在的方式能成功的傳教吧？

評論：

Barry Goldberg
How do I convince an atheist that there is a God?
Here are the simple steps you need to follow in order to convince an atheist that there is a God.
Come up with a clear definition of what, exactly, you mean by “God.” For example:
Are you talking specifically about the Christian God of the Bible? Allah? Jehovah? One or more Hindu gods? Any of the gods worshiped by past cultures (Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Norse, Sumerian, Celtic, Mayan, etc.)?
What are the specific characteristics of the particular God you are talking about? Is this God omnipotent, omniscient and all-loving, for example?What are some specific things that this God has supposedly done, said and/or promised? The more specific you can be, the easier it will be to convince an atheist that God exists, believe me. Did this God, for example, create the universe in 6 days, destroy most of life on earth with a massive flood, etc.? Did this God promise to grant “whatsoever is asked for in faith” or that his followers would be able to handle venomous snakes and drink poison without being harmed?Once you have a clear definition of exactly what sort of God you are talking about, provide some evidence of something this God has actually done for which the only possible explanation is your God. Note that it’s not enough to simply say that “science” can’t explain something or that something is “too improbable to have occurred naturally.” All that proves is that we currently don’t have a good explanation, not that your God did it. And no fair arguing that the only explanation is some sort of nebulous “something” that exists “somewhere” that you are just now going retroactively define as “God,” either. No, it has to be something for which the particular God that you personally worship is the only possible explanation.So that’s basically it. Carefully define your God and then provide evidence of something for which your God is the only possible explanation. No moving the goalposts, no claiming that you have to first have faith in order to see or understand the evidence.

回答2：
為了讓無神論者相信上帝的存在，你需要遵循以下簡單的步驟：
第一步，先定義清楚你的“神”，例如：
a: 你所說的“神”是上帝？ 真主？ 耶和華？印度教里的哪個神？過去文化(希臘、羅馬、埃及、挪威、蘇美爾、凱爾特人、瑪雅等)崇拜的神?

b： 你的“神”有什么具體的特征？ 例如這個神是全能、全知、全愛的嗎？
這個神具體說過什么，做過什么， 或應(yīng)許世人過什么.
相信我，你把這些描述得越具體，就越能讓無神論者相信你的“神”的存在.
例如，你描述這個“神”在6天內(nèi)創(chuàng)造了宇宙，
用一場大洪水摧毀地球上的大部分生命，等等。
你的這個神有沒有應(yīng)許“信主就得永生”，信主的人，被毒蛇咬也沒事？

c: 一旦你對這個神有了一個明確的定義，接下來的事就是去找神跡，這些神跡的唯一可能的解釋就是你的“神”.
要注意的事是，僅僅說“科學(xué)”不能解釋某神跡或某神跡“太不可能是自然發(fā)生”是不夠的.
你不要說“所有的這些神跡，我們目前沒有科學(xué)解釋，唯一的解釋是“神跡”背后有某種目前尚不明確的“東西”，而現(xiàn)在我們追溯定義它為“神”.
不，千萬不要這樣說，你要做的是，一口咬定你的“神”就是那些“神跡”的唯一解釋.

傳教，基本上就是這樣子的，先仔細地定義你的神，
然后提供證據(jù)證明你的神是唯一可能的解釋。
堅定目標(biāo)，不要聲稱必須先信主才能看到或理解“神跡”.

Kevin Wright
Q: How do I convince an atheist that there is a God?
There’s a simple 3-step technique for this, I call it “The Method?”Work out what would be necessary to persuade you as to the truth of the Nordic religion, that Thor, Odin and co. truly exist and are relevant to our lives. Feel free to describe the Sagas as “fact” when doing so, to point out how old the religion is, the continuing cultural relevance, the fact that we still base our days of the week on it and that still celebrate the midwinter festival with lights, gifts, feasting and a decorated treeAdapt the techniques from step 1 to instead refer to your chosen religion and deity/deities. Again referring to our current calendar and describing the appropriate myths and “holy” texts as “fact” if this should helpUse the adapted arguments from step 2 on your target atheistNow… You may have struggled at step 1, perhaps saying something to yourself like “That’s impossible, clearly Thor and co. are mythological nonsense, the sagas describe things that I know doesn’t happen in the real world; I could never be persuaded otherwise”If so, congratulations are in order! You’ve just learned the ability to empathise with exactly how that atheist feels about your religion. Try thinking about how you’d feel if someone repeatedly and insistently tried to persuade to believe in Freyja and Loki, perhaps using guilt-inspiring tactics, threats of damnation, anecdotes, and appeals to popularity.Hold onto this feeling of empathy and shared experience of the human condition, it’ll serve you far better than any futile attempts to persuade a rational individual that myths are true.

Teresa Baker,?
In all seriousness, I would kneel down and pray if the God of my childhood, a heavenly, loving father, did any (and preferably all) of the following:Scooped out all the plastic out of the ocean, saying “you’ve made a bit of a mess of this, haven’t you? I’ll clean up this time, but next time you’ll have to do it.” Likewise global warming, extinction of species, destruction of rain forests.
Stopped all weapons working, world-wide. Just froze them, with a warning “if you can’t be responsible with your toys, I’ll have to confiscate them”.
Reversed global warming, with a little slap on the wrists to big industry, saying "now, now, that was naughty. You really mustn''t spoil this Earth. Now start tidying it up or you''ll go to bed without any supper".Sowed luscious nutritious crops alongside running streams alongside all desperate hungry people everywhere. Made sure that distribution was open and equitable.
Made all torturers, rapists, users and abusers stand in the naughty corner, meditating in silence, before giving them effective therapy to develop empathy, understanding, insight, self-control, self-confidence etc. (whatever was needed to get the job done).
Made sure that each creation was in perfect working order before delivery.Made the holy book open, transparent, congruent, rational and non-violent, embracing the principles of loving-kindness for all.
Made sure that those in charge adhered to these same principles (or back to the naughty corner they go).
Healed the sick, the injured, those damaged by other human beings.
Gave everyone a real, equal chance to survive and grow.
Let my exhausted husband retire before his job kills him, ditto exhausted people everywhere.
I’m sure there’s more.

EDIT:
People are praying for an end to the coronavirus. I might as well add that to my list too. My mother said, “God expects us to help ourselves”. So, as helpless as we are in a calamity, not even the religious expect god-given help. God or no god, I agree. Stay at home. We don’t need god for that. But it would take a miracle for all those who don’t take the virus seriously to do the same (or the army, whichever comes first…)

回答4：
如果我兒時的上帝，慈愛的天父，做到以下任何一件事(最好是所有的事)，我就會虔誠地跪下來祈禱：
把海里的所有塑料垃圾撈干凈，
說:“你們把海洋弄得有點亂，是不是? 這次我來打掃，下次你們自己打掃”還有，全球變暖，物種滅絕，雨林被破壞等問題.

在全世界范圍內(nèi)停止了所有武器的使用，
并警告說“如果你們不能對自己制造出來的的東西負責(zé)，我就沒收它們”。
扭轉(zhuǎn)了全球變暖的趨勢，對那些大企業(yè)輕輕拍了一下手腕，
說:“好了，好了，不要再淘氣了。你們真的不能再糟蹋這個地球了?，F(xiàn)在開始收拾吧，否則你就不得吃晚飯，餓肚子去睡覺.”

在奔流的小溪邊，在世界各地饑腸轆轆的人們身邊，
播種著營養(yǎng)豐富的莊稼。
確保世間的財富公開、公平地分配。

讓所有的施虐者、強奸犯、吸毒者和欺凌者站到一個角落里去，
給予他們有效的治療以發(fā)展同理心、理解、洞察力、自我控制、自信等(任何需要完成工作的東西).
讓這些人遵守世間其他人遵守的原則，否則就不要放他們出來.
確保每個產(chǎn)品在交付前都處于良好的工作狀態(tài)。

使《圣經(jīng)》開放、透明、一致、理性、非暴力，信奉博愛的原則。
治愈那些生病的人，受傷的人，被別人傷害的人.
給每個人一個真正的、平等的生存和成長的機會。
讓我疲憊的丈夫在他的工作要了他的命之前退休吧。
我相信還有更多。

還有:
人們正在為消滅冠狀病毒而祈禱。
我把它加到我的列表里。
我媽媽說:“上帝希望我們幫助自己?！彼?，我們在災(zāi)難中是多么無助，就連宗教人士也不指望上帝的幫助。
不管有沒有上帝，我都同意呆在家里。
我們不需要上帝，但是，對于那些不把病毒當(dāng)回事的人來說，要讓他們呆在家里(動用軍隊或動用上帝，不管哪個先出現(xiàn)……)，都是一個奇跡.

Ara Mambreyan, MEng, University of Cambridge (2021)
upxed Jun 14, 2017 · Upvoted by Christello Garcia, Server/waiter/sir at Lisa''s Mexican Restaurant (2011-present)
Invite god and your atheist friend to dinner
Firstly, you have to get the phone-number of God. You can do this by contacting the religious leaders who claim that they talk to God. This one is easy.
Next, contact your atheist friend and invite him to dinner. He/she would first be reluctant to attend. However, you can lure him/her by mentioning that you would order pizza or cook delicious barbecue.
Let the atheist see God and he/she will immediately be convinced that there is god. (NOTE: God has to still convince the atheist that he/she is the God. Let’s leave this task for God. He is omnipotent after all).
If this doesn’t work, I suggest that you use other types of real-life evidence to convince an atheist that there is God.
Other than that, stop wasting your and others’ time. No real atheist wants you to “convince” him that there is God.
Get mature enough to not mingle in others’ beliefs

回答5：
邀請上帝和你的無神論朋友共進晚餐.

Peter Miller, Atheist, bon vivant and sometime raconteur
Answered Oct 6, 2016
How do I convince an atheist that there is a God?Oh, that’s terribly easy! You just provide some unequivocal independently-verifiable physical proof that your god exists. I’d change my mind instantly if you could do that.Just because you, yourself are convinced of the existence of your god is not a good enough reason for any other person to believe you. People are convinced of all kinds of things that aren’t true that they’d like me to believe, but their conviction about those things is no basis for reasonable persuasion. Some people think that aliens are visiting us on earth, for example, and others think they can talk to the spirits of the deceased. Still others are of the belief that Scientology makes sense, or that NASA faked the moon landings. I’m not inclined to assign legitimacy to any of those things just on someone else’s conviction, no matter how strong it is.You yourself would not believe me if I told you, for example, that there was a big dragon sitting on your front lawn right now. You’d want to see it. And probably smell, it touch it and hear it too. Above all, you’d probably want some other people to see it as well, just to make sure you weren’t hallucinating.Unless you can provide some actual substantiation that your god exists, you have no advantage over any other person trying to persuade someone of an irrational belief.

我怎樣才能使一個無神論者相信上帝的存在呢?
哦，那太容易了!你只需提供一些明確的、獨立的、可驗證的物理證據(jù)，證明你的上帝確實存在。如果你能做到這個神跡，我馬上改變信仰。

僅僅因為你自己相信你的上帝的存在，并不足以成為其他人相信你的理由。
人們相信各種各樣的不真實的事情，
他們希望我相信，但是他們對這些事情的信念并不是合理說服他人的基礎(chǔ)。

例如，一些人認(rèn)為外星人正在地球上拜訪我們，而另一些人認(rèn)為他們可以與死者的靈魂交談。
還有一些人科學(xué)論說得通，或者認(rèn)為美國宇航局偽造了登月計劃。
僅僅根據(jù)他人的信念，就相信那些（虛無的）東西是真實的，這說不過去，不管他人的信念有多強大.

你自己也不會相信我的啊.
比如，如果我告訴你，現(xiàn)在有一條巨龍坐在你的前面草坪上，
你肯定也想確認(rèn)一下是不是真有巨龍在那里.
可能你還要確認(rèn)一下它的氣味，摸一下它，聽到它的聲音，最重要的是，你可能也想讓其他人也看到它，就是為了確保你沒有產(chǎn)生幻覺。

除非你能提供一些實際的證據(jù)來證明你的神的存在，
否則你就沒有任何優(yōu)越感去說服別人去相信一個不合理的信仰.